The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show
EPISODE 17: WEEK 12 CFB RECAP, WEEK 13 PREVIEW PLUS MORE
In this episode of the Monty and Murdy College Football Show, the hosts recap a thrilling Week 12 of college football, discussing key matchups including Clemson's narrow victory over Pitt, Arizona State's surprising win against Kansas State, and the intense battle between Missouri and South Carolina. They also analyze Tennessee's tough loss to Georgia and the implications for the playoffs as they dive into the latest rankings. The episode wraps up with predictions for Week 13 and highlights the standout performances and disappointments of the week.
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The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (00:22.834)
All right, welcome in everybody. It's gonna be episode number 17 of the Monty and Murdy College Football Show. Monty, we had a tough one this week, man. Or not really we, got to get a bye. But Tennessee had a tough one this week. How are you doing, man? What's going on?
Monty (00:43.188)
Yeah, tough one. Tennessee lost, the Chiefs lost, and I'm now 2-9 in fantasy in one of my leagues. So it's just a bad football weekend for this household, but feeling good nonetheless. Tennessee has a good bounce back game this next week, but overall, a lot of stuff happened. For real short, we'll talk about ASU.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (00:49.902)
Mm.
Monty (01:11.437)
Like we talked about last week, sneaking in and now here they are on, on the main stage in the big 12, South Carolina surviving, Clemson surviving. And then it's Monday, November 18th. So the rankings haven't come out yet. So we'll get to, talk about maybe some certain scenarios that might play out come tomorrow night. what, what this past week means for a couple of different teams. but a lot of stuff happening and, obviously with the previews coming up.
Monty (01:40.237)
for this next week, got some big games to talk about. Exciting stuff, end of the season, coming down to the wire.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:48.621)
It's kind of crazy to think that we're already on week 13. Season always seems like it flies by. The anticipation building up to it seems like it takes forever. But hey, we're already here. We still got some exciting stuff for y'all. Monty's kind of already walked you through the recap. Y'all know how the show goes. Let's go ahead and dive into our week 12 recap. Monty, first game on the slate. We had Clemson traveling to Pitt.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (02:18.265)
Clemson ended up escaping with a 24-20 win. Do you have any thoughts when you were watching that game?
Monty (02:25.471)
I mean, obviously it was a lot closer than we thought it was going to be. I thought Clemson's offense was going to take care of business for four quarters. They ended up taking care of business at the end there especially. One thing I did talk about was Cade Klubnick was going to Cade Klubnick and he did in a good way. Towards the end he was able to clutch up and win that game for him. But impressive game nonetheless by Pittsburgh.
Monty (02:53.15)
When it comes to Clumsie, you don't really know what you're going to get with them. I think this year is kind of the theme. as we know, they, they lost to Georgia week one and then they were hot for several weeks and then all of a sudden they slip up against Louisville. But it seems like they're, they're going to be at least in the conversation, playoff conversation. I don't think necessarily they're going to make it. but they're definitely in that conversation. They were able to survive, with a talented quarterback.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (03:21.054)
Yeah, kind of interesting, kind of interesting offensive strategy for Pitt here. They kind of just, know, Eli Holstein didn't play for them. They started Nate Yarnell, started the backup quarterback and they more kind of, you know, whenever you think about a team starting their backup quarterback, you're like, okay, they're going to try to work him in, do the run game, know, lean on the run game, get him worked in, quick, easy throws.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (03:49.949)
Not really Pitt's plan here. They just kind of said, hey, doesn't really matter. We're doing what we do. Nate Yardnell ended up throwing the ball or yeah, throwing the ball 54 times for 34 completions, but he got 350 yards. He kind of split one touchdown, one interception, but big stat line that stands out for this one for me was the 13 penalties committed by Pitt, kind of undisciplined, over exactly a hundred yards. And the two turnovers, I just,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (04:19.692)
They kind of beat themselves. They were able to move the ball better than I thought they would be able to, especially with Eli Holstein not being able to play. Pitt was able to move the ball. Offense put up some good points, especially in the second half, mainly the fourth quarter where they were able to score 13. Overall though, Pitt gave them a better fight, especially what I expected when Eli Holstein wasn't going to be making the start for them. It kind of speaks to that offensive coordinator and the kind of...
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (04:48.716)
quarterback coach being able to say, hey, to get that backup quarterback, he's had to have been engaged and get him where he's ready to play against a pretty good Clemson defense.
Monty (05:00.549)
Yeah, overall, I mean, it was was a fun game to watch too. mean, I said that Kate Kluemmick at the end. was that was cool. I mean, because if you watch the first half of that game, especially like Clemson, like physicality wise, was kind of getting beat up and they just kind of they stayed resilient throughout the game. And Kate Kluemmick did not get flustered despite, you know, being down and and it looked like they might have won that game. But
Monty (05:29.649)
Yeah, overall impressive win I think for Clemson. It's one of those teams, like I said, they're just kind of a wild card this year. It'll be interesting to see what happens to them.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (05:38.313)
Yeah, like I said, they probably, they need a little bit of help, I believe, to get them into the ACC Championship game. Yeah, they need a little bit of help, but hey, crazier things have happened, especially as we're coming into these last two weeks of the season. Still an opportunity, and all you need is, really all you need is if you're in one of the power four, you just need a seat at that conference championship game, and you can be looking at a playoff spot.
Monty (05:47.115)
couple of people need to lose but...
Monty (05:56.688)
this
Monty (06:05.338)
And this year of all years, I mean, it's very 2007-esque, so I wouldn't put it past anybody.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (06:10.931)
Yeah, yeah definitely is. so let's go ahead. We'll roll on to the next game one we both predicted wrong here. arizona state went to manhattan kansas take on k-state ended up winning 24 14 and
Monty (06:27.558)
So this
Monty (06:28.042)
one, so this one I wanted to say, so we predicted the winter wrong, but we actually predicted this right in the sense of Avery Johnson. we said, you know, he plays well at home. And so with that, they were going to be more successful. didn't play well this, this time around at home and you see what happens, right? And I'm not taking anything away from Arizona state by any means, because they're the kind of that now they're there. Well, they're the quiet team and the big 12. No one really knew that they're seven and two now sitting at eight and two with a good win.
Monty (06:57.997)
and they got, they got, yes, we do BYU at, at, in, in Phoenix, this next week. But, but yeah, I mean, Avery Johnson in the sense of, you know, playing well at home, or basically the games being kind of judged based on how he plays. I mean, that's basically what happened, right? He, I had it written down earlier. I thought I wrote it down on here.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (06:58.121)
Yep, we got more on them a little later.
Monty (07:27.524)
but he threw two interceptions, zero touchdowns. I remember that. it's like ASU was able to get the takeaways and they really didn't do anything on the run, on the ground. Like I thought they would, like anything, you know, of real significance, but they actually won the game through the air, which ended up, I mean, you see the score, it's more or less, that's more or less a defensive game, but you know,
Monty (07:53.058)
When the ASU is able to get two interceptions out of the game, I mean, that is a defensively dominant game. So they were able to do that and look out for Arizona State, guess. That's awesome.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (08:05.119)
Yeah, yeah, kind of kind of one that really snuck up on everybody. You know, they weren't very they weren't predicted to do very well, but Kenny Dillingham is obviously got that program headed.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (08:20.574)
I'm not going to say the direction of the program. I will say that they are performing well. Kansas state there. mean, really they just couldn't overcome the, I had a slow start, no points in the first half blank zero. and Kansas state or Arizona state was able to grind them out in the second half. You know, it's kind of a tale of two halves. mean, Kansas state put up eight in the fourth quarter. Arizona state only had three points, but Hey, they had it. They had 21 going into half. they're like, Hey, we'll just coast it out.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (08:49.864)
rely on our defense and not try to get ourselves to lose this game. Obviously aware of the stakes that this game had, even though the rest of us might not have been quite clued in. It's like, how close is Arizona State?
Monty (08:54.732)
Nope.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (09:07.466)
Yeah, man, that's all I got. mean Sam Levitt, good game, know, efficient throwing the football, 21 for 34, three touchdowns. Avery Johnson, like I said, man, we've said it all year. I've said it since like week one. Avery Johnson, is just, if he can ever find a steady state, I mean, they will, to where he's like a consistent
Monty (09:26.621)
If he plays well, they play well. If he plays bad, they play bad.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (09:36.393)
solid performer for him. I Can State is gonna be really good. It's just finding that consistency of him as a young player. It'll come in time. You know, he's still, I think he's in his first year starting, but he's probably, I think he's either a redshirt freshman or a sophomore. So he's got time to, you know, develop that, but he flashes the potential. You see where it is, and then you also see, hey, he's still a young player. So let's roll on to the next one, man. We got Missouri.
Monty (10:01.406)
Absolutely.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (10:06.313)
versus South Carolina close one close one South Carolina ended up winning 34 30 after being favored by Two touchdowns almost in this one. So Missouri Missouri gave him a hell of a fight I didn't really I didn't expect this one to be as close as it was Obviously Brady cook coming back from Missouri was huge in this game. I didn't think he was gonna play I thought it was gonna be Drew Pine. So he
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (10:36.137)
Brady Cook was able to come back. However, you can't talk about this game without talking about Lenora Sellers. You know, 350 yards, five touchdowns. That's a big time performance in a big time game for him.
Monty (10:52.639)
On
Monty (10:53.037)
20 on 21 throw wall 30 attempts, but 21 completed throws. mean, that's pretty. That's pretty impressive.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (10:57.405)
Mm-hmm.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (11:02.3)
Yeah, I mean, Brady Cook, was all right. I mean, he wasn't, he didn't play lights out. What was surprising for me was that how well Missouri was able to run the ball in this game against that South Carolina defense. I thought that was going to be a point where they struggled, especially with how good South Carolina is across that defensive line. Obviously, Missouri found some things in their little outside zone scheme that they were able to take advantage of how aggressive South Carolina is on the defensive front.
Monty (11:33.63)
Yeah. I mean, you basically, you basically have exactly what I had. know, Brady cook coming back, W helped. had a late push at the end there. the zoo did, gave South Carolina a little bit of scare there, but, but yeah, sellers is, is clutch and obviously South Carolina's guy for the foreseeable future. mean, you, you, said it exactly right. mean, 21 to 33, under 53 yards, five touchdowns and one interception. I'm going to talk about it a little bit later, but.
Monty (12:03.698)
But yeah, mean, having him in that game, was the difference straight up. mean, especially with Mizzou's late push there. if they didn't have him, I don't know if they were gonna be able to make that game winning drive. They scored with 15 seconds left to win the game. So impressive game by him. They snuck out of there. We predicted that one correctly, of course, in the sense of the winner.
Monty (12:28.539)
Hey, Mizzou scored 30 though. You can see the difference when they're, when they play with Brady Coker versus when they don't. So I'll give that to them for sure. but man, yeah, Lenora Sellers is something for South Carolina. Scary for other teams in the SEC now is, know, he kind of came out of the woodwork. No one was really expecting him to be, yeah, South Carolina fans. They might say, well we knew this, we knew this, right. But from the outside looking in, one really knew who this guy was coming in. and obviously he is,
Monty (12:57.468)
Very talented, very clutch, and South Carolina's a guy.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (13:02.215)
Yeah, South Carolina, going to be, they're probably going to lose at least one of their stars on the defensive line this year. After this season. However, know, the Lenora Sellers and Dylan Stewart and all the guys that they got that's a young group. South Carolina could be looking pretty competitive here for the next couple of years. Safe to say, Shane Beamer, he kind of came into the season possibly on the hot seat. You know, it was talked about.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (13:32.503)
And it was considered, but I think he's done at least well enough to definitely keep his job and hopefully get some buy-in from the donor base in South Carolina.
Monty (13:42.872)
Absolutely. Yeah, say the least he's definitely saved. Yeah, he's bought himself some more time at least but Arguably might have bought himself another contract. So we'll see
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (13:53.937)
Yeah, very, very possibly looking at an extension for Shane Beamer this off season. Let's go ahead and dive in. Game of the week. Game of the week. And unfortunately for you, you got this one right. Tennessee went to Georgia. Tennessee ended up losing 31-17. Dogs ended up coming out on top. Monte, let's go ahead and we'll let you go ahead and rant on it. What you got on
Monty (14:20.154)
Yeah, I mean, not so much of a rant. And if anybody thinks I'm going to talk about the officiating, I'm not going to. have my own opinions, but that's not the end of the day. That's not what it was about. There are some questionable calls, but what was good to see from Tennessee was that the offense played well in the first half, right? Looked like we were going to take care of business, right? Right out of the gate. And then we go up to possession that it was looking good.
Monty (14:50.04)
had a strong feeling. was like, no, like just wait. Sure enough, 14 unanswered by Georgia, but it was good to at least see a score points in the first half against an SEC opponent. Nico played of course, for those who don't know, I'm sure everyone knows, listens, but Nico Yamalaya did end up playing. mean, played fine. He didn't have 200 yards passing, but he didn't, you know, he didn't turn the ball over.
Monty (15:18.969)
It was good to see play. Good to see Tennessee score in the first half. mean, it was tied 17-7 at half and then like this in the second half. So our offense completely flipped from the norm of what, you know, what Tennessee normally does. You know, we play slow in the first half and we score our points in the second half. Score all, literally all our points in the first half. And then like I said, Georgia was going to Georgia and Kirby's smart. I I firmly believe that.
Monty (15:48.844)
There were zero outcomes in that game where Georgia left without a W. And I think it could have been any opponent, probably in the country. Like Georgia was not going to lose that game to anybody, not in Athens, not Kirby Smart, not in that specific scenario of a kind of a winner most likely go home for George. There was no outcome. And that's my opinion, but I firmly believe that. And then of course our first time Tennessee's defense gave up
Monty (16:18.505)
more than 20 points in the season. So if we can't hold them, if we can't hold a team to 20 or less, based on how our offense has been playing shockingly this year, we're not going to beat them, which we saw. Another thing that bothered me about the Tennessee defensive side, and this was so weird to see, zero sacks. And this was one thing I had talked about going into this this past week about Ole Miss. They were getting home rushing four.
Monty (16:48.983)
Right. we were not able to do that. We were, and we were only rushing for, for whatever reason, Tim banks, our defense coordinator didn't blitz at all. And against the quarterback who struggles against pressure. So this guy was so Carson Beck was sitting back there for three, four, five seconds, six seconds on some plays. and with no pressure. so that showed he threw the ball for 40, 25 of them connected.
Monty (17:17.974)
25, 40, 347 yards and two touchdowns. Because you don't want to blitz against him. Why? I do not know. I don't understand why there was no blitz, why there was no pressure on a guy that does struggle against pressure. But because of that, he played well and didn't turn the ball over. So we didn't capitalize on his struggles. Dylan Sampson, another 100 yard game. 19, 101 with a touchdown. So he's still obviously the guy.
Monty (17:48.746)
I'll let you talk a little bit more about the O line. Cause I can, I can, you saw one of my notes on your note. I can go on about those guys, but, but, you know, when it comes to our offense, all right. I don't know what the answer is. You know, we, talk about it every week about connecting on deep balls, connecting on, you know, that, that, that 10, 10 to 20 yard area are where our drops are. And then Nico would overthrow.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (17:55.476)
Yeah.
Monty (18:18.357)
There wasn't a whole lot of that. didn't really seem like we took a ton of shots downfield. Again, I'm not taking anything away from Georgia. just, cause they played really well and I knew they were going to play well. Tough game to watch. UGA had, yeah, four yards, 453 to Tennessee's 319. So outgained us in.
Monty (18:43.861)
to the game and it showed. So 17, 17 and a half, Georgia won 31 17. They just scored more points than us.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (18:52.029)
Yeah, kind of a very competitive game in the first half. One thing that stood out to it before I get on to the O-line play, which man, I was frustrated on your behalf because it was like, you know, it's like you see something happen and you're like, you know, then it starts standing out to you. It's like, it doesn't bother you. It's like, you know, you see a scratch on your car, right? It's like, if you had never seen that little hairline scratch,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (19:21.474)
you wouldn't even pay attention until you actually see it. And then all it does is that just constantly annoys you. So I'll talk about that here in a sec in regards to the Tennessee offensive line. But Georgia's defense, man, they kind of zero explosive plays from Tennessee in this game, which is explosive plays for everybody is 20 plus yards, 20 plus yard game. There was zero of them for Tennessee, which I mean, that's kind of.
Monty (19:28.2)
Mm-hmm.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (19:48.183)
You know, the offensive system or scheme that Josh Hyple comes from or is disciple of is the veer and shoot. The whole idea is that you move laterally, you do quick game, jet sweeps, all that stuff, and then you take shots down the field. know, if George was able to take away the shoot part of the offense, which is, you know, taking those deep shots or, you know, those explosive plays, then you kind of make the offense one dimensional. it's granted, Nico, he didn't put the ball in harm's way.
Monty (19:48.239)
OOF
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (20:17.656)
kind of stayed, he kind of played within himself. mean, granted it's not, you don't want to ask a young quarterback to be able to go in there and play hero ball. But you know, he just kind of ran the system and unfortunately with what Georgia was able to do on defense, there wasn't a lot of opportunity there. And you know, the times that Josh Hyple did call the deep shots, you know, he would miss, you know, and that could be for a lot of things, you know, it could be he's out of sync with it, you know.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (20:45.783)
Sometimes deep balls, know, it's something like, hey, just, it's kind of a feel-through, you know. It's something, you know, just, it's not in the flow of the game or he's just, you know, the offense isn't in an established rhythm. So, it's kind of a props to Georgia on that. Tennessee, I mean, obviously they haven't, since they've gotten into SEC's play, it's not like they've been just lighting everybody up offensively. They've been mainly relying on their defense. Unfortunately though, Georgia,
Monty (20:47.63)
Ahem.
Monty (20:57.266)
Thank
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (21:15.372)
But not getting any pressure on Carson Beck, he was able to play like the Carson Beck from last year. The reason everybody thought he was coming into the season, that's the number one pick. That's the next guy, next NFL freaking top prospect. And with no pressure on his face, he looked like that. Speaking of what I'd spoke on earlier, the Tennessee offensive line, Spragans, the right guard.
Monty (21:29.965)
Ahem.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (21:44.907)
Number 76, he's got some bad issues in pass throw. I don't know if he, doesn't seem to know where he's supposed to be working or where he fits in when somebody's picked up. I watched him a couple times. He would literally thought the defensive tackle would come on, hit the center and the defensive tackle would spin around. And I watched Spragans move. So the center's here and he would move in front and chase that defensive tackle.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (22:13.89)
and leave a gaping hole that a linebacker just pursued straight down Nico's face. There's another time where he gets his eyes caught in a bad spot looking left and then he looks back right and I guess he's checking to see if somebody's coming from the flat or maybe a defensive end is coming to stand around that defensive tackle and he's looking right and then the linebacker runs right by him. He sees him at the last second and he looks like he tries to put a hand up and then just lets him go.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (22:43.459)
It just stood out to me over and over again. When I was watching Tennessee's offense, I just kept focusing in on 76 and I'm like, all right, what's he going to do this play? That was almost the entire second half of me watching this game. He's definitely got some issues in past pro. Do you know what class he is? Is he a senior? Is he a young guy?
Monty (23:06.51)
He's older. I don't know if he's a senior. Be able to tell you here in a sec.
Monty (23:17.23)
Whoops.
Monty (23:20.11)
God dang it.
Monty (23:23.854)
Vontis Braggins
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (23:24.204)
Yeah, see.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (23:26.277)
But yeah, he's got some issues. Obviously you had some notes on Lance Hurd. Now granted, think, like said, man, it just stood out to me. I just kept focusing in on it. So I kind of missed some of the stuff that Lance Hurd was giving up.
Monty (23:39.361)
Yeah,
Monty (23:39.944)
he's a senior. I knew he was older.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (23:43.295)
He's a senior. Okay, so yeah, that's definitely a little bit more of experienced player for your eyes to still be in the wrong place and you just not be able to figure out where you work in the pass pro scheme. So Tennessee's definitely gonna wanna get that cleaned up. Cause I know if I can see it on tape, know, every freaking defensive coordinator that Tennessee has to play after this is gonna be able to see that on tape and be like.
Monty (23:45.004)
Yeah.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (24:10.549)
Hey, we need to scheme up stuff to attack 76 with our Blitz packages or whatever the case.
Monty (24:15.925)
Yeah.
Monty (24:17.119)
Well, and that's, and that's, you know, that's basically what happened, right? mean, it's Kirby smart sees and adjust to everything. So you're going to, know, if you're making mistakes, he's going to capitalize on it. mean, that's, I mean, that's what happened. I'm not taking anything away from Georgia this game at all, nor my, nor my saying Tennessee necessarily played a bad game. It wasn't a bad game. Like we played fine. I, again, I said that there was no outcome.
Monty (24:44.972)
I genuinely believe that Ole Miss had Ole Miss played this game against Georgia in Athens in this scenario, they would have lost. If Alabama played Georgia in this same scenario in Athens this past Saturday, they would have lost as well. Texas would have lost again. I think every single team or almost every single team in the country would have lost. How, by how many? I don't know. know, we, you know, Tennessee lost by 14. So, you know,
Monty (25:14.795)
Some would say, they got their butts kicked. mean, I didn't really feel that way. I felt like we were in that game the whole time.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (25:22.676)
I call it, I wouldn't say you got your butts kicked. mean, I still come out of this game and I'm like, those are still two of the best 12 teams in the country. That's me looking at.
Monty (25:31.624)
Agreed, agreed, but you know,
Monty (25:34.334)
I, but yeah, some would call me bias, but I try not to be because I know we have our issues, but, I would also argue if Georgia and Tennessee played each other in the same scenario in Knoxville, we probably would have won that game. So I think Tennessee, Georgia, and vice versa, which obviously happened, but to all the teams, I think Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and Ole Miss are all.
Monty (26:01.352)
like the same team when it comes to how good they are this season when it comes to talent wise and everything in their own ways. But you'll see that these all four teams are most likely going to go 10 and two and somebody's probably going to get left out of the playoff. But
Monty (26:20.53)
You could have put every single one of those four teams in that scenario in Tennessee's position or Georgia's position and the outcome would have been the exact same depending on where like you just unplug and plug one in unplug, plug one into one of those spots in that scenario. you know, say it was Ole Miss at Alabama, but Alabama was in George's position. Alabama's when I game or you say Ole Miss is in George's position and it's played in Oxford and Alabama's kind of town Ole Miss is with.
Monty (26:49.105)
so I, I just, I just, don't think, and I'm, I'm not saying Georgia's not the better team. I've been on them the whole year saying that they were, they were better, but, I just think in this scenario, if you put any one of those four teams there. So I'm not disappointed with the, with how Tennessee played necessarily. Obviously it sucks to lose, but I mean, I think, I think we're overall fine. it just, it just throws a wrench into things obviously when it comes to,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (27:12.842)
you
Monty (27:16.696)
And that Arkansas game is showing to be a real problem too. But we'll talk about that as the as the rest of the season goes on.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (27:24.949)
Yeah, speaking of Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Tennessee, let's go ahead and roll on to our top 25. Kind of lead. Interesting enough, if you look at, so granted, we're recording this on Monday. The college football poll does not come out until Tuesday. So we'll get this out. This podcast will be out probably before the college football poll even drops. So we're going off this based on kind of our, you know, we haven't looked at what the committee said about the games this week.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (27:53.61)
We can go off the AP top 25 and we'll give you our best kind of thoughts about it. So the AP actually has four big 12 teams or big 10 teams, sorry, in the top five with Ohio State or Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State and Indiana with Texas splitting them at number three, followed by Notre Dame at six. And then you close out with the four teams you were just talking about, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss and Tennessee.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (28:22.137)
at seven through ten. And when I look at this poll, I mean, you got to think there's a world where we have six, six two loss SEC teams. If Texas goes to A here in two weeks and loses, A is a two loss. Tennessee's a two loss. Ole Miss is a two loss.
Monty (28:46.16)
Well,
Monty (28:46.626)
think, well, A would be a three loss if they lost. But if Texas lose, if Texas loses, they'll be tough. Okay, okay.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (28:50.664)
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what saying. Texas is loses. A wins the
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (28:56.15)
game. If A wins the game, A is a two loss. Texas is a two loss, as well as Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Tennessee.
Monty (29:04.774)
And I'm not putting and I'm not looking past the Tennessee Vanderbilt game. Just letting you know that now.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (29:10.374)
I'm
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (29:10.614)
just saying, say those four go undefeated. I'm just talking about a potential scenario.
Monty (29:13.306)
We got it.
Monty (29:14.791)
Right. Right. Right. No, I know. was making a joke because it's very on brand for Tennessee football to do something like that.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (29:21.533)
Yeah, got Notre Dame splitting them at six. They got a big match up this week. Couple, well, so what are the couple notes that you have as you're looking through this, you know, a couple of the look at the AP top 25. Obviously it's not going to be the exact same as what the college football playoff committee is going to come up with, but it gives you a good idea for a frame of reference. Is there anything that stands out to you or any teams that you're like, Hey, we probably need to start talking about them a little bit more.
Monty (29:50.373)
Well, I'll be I'll be honest with you. I don't have a people Pulled up at me. I'm really looked at I honestly once the cultural Playoff poll comes out. I really stopped paying attention to the AP But the notes that I do have are on kind of what?
Monty (30:09.093)
I guess kind of what I think is ahead for some of these teams when, when the poll does come out and the playoff poll does come out, based off this past week, kind of what, what this means for certain teams. and since we're on the aspect of it, I'll kind of stay in that sec realm. have a couple other teams too, so I'll start with you. So, so what this means for Georgia, right? So they beat Tennessee, they're eight and two, their best wins are Texas and Tennessee, which are.
Monty (30:39.458)
And their worst loss is, there were only two losses, Alabama and Ole Miss. So what it means for Georgia, I think that if they went out, well, if they went out and they don't necessarily control their own destiny, but if they went out and Texas loses, they're in the SEC championship. And I think that if Georgia,
Monty (31:06.315)
makes it if Texas loses and Georgia makes it wins out and makes it to the SEC championship. I think they're in winter love winter lose. So playoff.
Monty (31:17.147)
That would put them at 10 and three or 11 and two. So win or lose in this CGM chip. think they're in, that would pin them against A and I would take Georgia in Atlanta personally. I think most would, but, I would say that they're in either way. If they make the sec championship now, if A and loses to Texas, I believe it would be.
Monty (31:43.848)
Alabama and actually now that I mentioned it, think Alabama might, well, cause Alabama has the tiebreaker. So they might still be in the SEC championship over Georgia if Texas loses, but if Texas wins there and wins out, they'll, they'll be in the, they'll be in the SEC championship. And then I think it's between Alabama and Georgia. what does mean for Tennessee? they definitely need some help. BYU losing to Kansas this past week helps a little bit.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (32:12.541)
Mm-hmm.
Monty (32:13.115)
I got my thumbs up there. That helps. And then wouldn't mind, wouldn't mind Notre Dame lose an army. That would help Tennessee a lot too. But yeah, but Tennessee is going to need a little bit of help. Who does Ole Miss play somebody this week?
Monty (32:37.761)
Is it South Carolina?
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (32:44.701)
I'll miss place Florida.
Monty (32:46.625)
That's right. I knew that. if Florida can beat Ole Miss, that would help Tennessee out a lot too. But it's yes, exactly. And it's, it's unfortunately it's a noon game, but, but, but I think that'll be a tough one for Ole Miss. That would help Tennessee's case. Florida was able to come out of that. DJ Lagway is playing as of right now. And he's three and one as the starter, but three and O if he plays the full game. So who knows? And it's a, it's in the swamp.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (32:51.677)
It's in Gainesville.
Monty (33:16.116)
We'll see. but Tennessee does need some help. That would help. it also depends on where the committee, where the committee puts them tomorrow, after the loss to Georgia, what they believe that that loss looks like to them. what this means for BYU, BYU losing to Kansas does not help their case ranking wise. However, they're still in the lead of the, big 12.
Monty (33:42.624)
They're still on par to as long as they went out, they'll be in the big 12 championship. So if they went out, they still control their own destiny and being in the playoff. The KU loss like the Tennessee Arkansas loss kind of throws a wrench into the season that they don't need and can't really afford or can barely afford. But they're still fine for now. But but man, they play Arizona State this week in Phoenix.
Monty (34:08.927)
So, we're, and Al's obviously quite ASU team now making a little bit of noise. So if they drop this one, it really, really mixes up the big 12, which we predicted of course, big 12 being crazy, crazy show. Now what this means for Arizona state.
Monty (34:26.108)
With their win this past week, mean, it it really launched them into the big 12 title conversation. They have to beat BYU though. They don't beat BYU, they're done. Cause then it'll be BYU in Colorado and that's it. And ASU won't be good enough to make the play out. So ASU is still in the conversation now. They're kind of out of nowhere, but they are. But they need, but they have to beat BYU this week.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (34:51.717)
They kind of control their own destiny, but they have to win. Pretty much gotta win out and they'll be in.
Monty (34:56.956)
Yes.
Monty (34:58.348)
Yeah. And they, I don't know the exact route to it. So I don't want anyone quoting me being like, you're wrong. But I think they need to win out. And then I think they need, I think they might need Colorado to lose, but I don't know for sure. So I don't want anyone quoting me.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (35:13.979)
Well I just don't know would they have the tiebreaker over BYU? And Iowa State?
Monty (35:20.222)
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (35:23.355)
That would be the question.
Monty (35:24.687)
I
Monty (35:24.79)
guess, I guess BYU, yeah, if they beat BYU, yeah, they would have the tiebreaker over BYU, because BYU already has one big 12 loss now, and that would be the second loss, so they'd be tied with ASU. So yeah, ASU needs to win out. I'm pretty sure that's correct. So ASU just needs to win out, and they're in. And then it's ASU in Colorado, most likely. Iowa State needs a couple people to lose. I read it earlier, and I don't remember. But Colorado, they need Colorado to lose.
Monty (35:54.384)
And there was somebody else, but Iowa state needs, needs a lot of help. It's possible, but unlikely. that's yeah, that's what I got on the rankings.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (35:59.823)
Yeah, looking at the...
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (36:03.207)
And we got Boise State. The Group of Five conversation is definitely going to get a little bit interesting. Is UNLV still hanging around at 8 and 2? Possibly, I believe UNLV, are they still in the Mountain West?
Monty (36:19.228)
They are but the problem there is is that if Boise State and Colorado State went out they're both undefeated in the Mountain West so they'd be in the Mountain West Championship so UNLV would be done. at UNLV is full and one in the Mountain West and Colorado State's five and Weirdly enough they're seven and three five and in the Mountain West and then obviously Boise State's what nine and one overall and they're six and in the Mountain West so yeah all that happens is a-
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (36:27.491)
Okay. Yeah, that'll put a fork in them.
Monty (36:47.942)
Boise State and Colorado State went out.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (36:49.975)
Yeah, then you got Army and Tulane kind of lurking back there as the number two and three.
Monty (36:54.798)
Those
Monty (36:55.067)
are those are the, those are the. So that's the cool thing about the American, the AAC too, right? So if you have army, which they're Vegas is guess is saying they're not going to, but if you have army beat Notre Dame this week, that's top 10 win for an undefeated team. They'll likely be in the, the AAC conference championship. Actually, I think they already are. think it's, it's actually the only conference that.
Monty (37:26.426)
has like a set matchup, Army and Tulane. So if you have those two teams play and you say Army beats Notre Dame, quality top 10 win, but then Tulane beats Army.
Monty (37:40.832)
I guess that's a two loss to Tulane. So then at that point, if Boise State won out, Boise State would be in. But if Army wins out, they beat Notre Dame and beat Tulane, they win out the regular season and beat Tulane in the AAC Championship. That's an undefeated group five with a top 10 win. That's something Boise State doesn't have.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (37:42.074)
to us.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (37:56.62)
Yeah.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (37:58.253)
Yeah, but could you imagine the argument against Tulane? They're going to be like, well, they lost to a terrible Oklahoma team.
Monty (38:06.745)
It might, yeah, it might
Monty (38:08.03)
be, it might be, it's, let's say, but if Tulane were to win out, cause they already have two losses. So if they were to win out, and boys state would have went out, boys state would be in it. There wouldn't really be an argument for Tulane where it gets sticky, where it gets sticky is the, the, the army, the army, boys state conversation that both went out and, growing up boys state fan, my sister went to undergrad there. Her husband went to undergrad there. Big boys state fan always have been.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (38:36.667)
It's like you're three schools. You have three schools. You're a Tennessee first, Iowa State second, and Boise State's like your third.
Monty (38:36.672)
However...
Monty (38:43.104)
Yeah. And then, and then the UCLA Bruins are sprinkling in there. That's my mom. but yeah, yep. That's, that's the other one, but they're, pretty bad this year. And then my sister, her master's degrees from Georgia. I cannot stand Georgia. So we're good on that one. But, but yeah, the, the, to my point, big Boise State fans, I don't want anyone to call me out for any biases, the argument in my opinion is for army over Boise State. They
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (38:47.586)
Okay, as I say, I've never heard that one, but alright.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (38:59.384)
Not happening. Not happening.
Monty (39:12.17)
if they both went out.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (39:13.956)
Well, I mean, we're going to get back into the debate that we had last week. What does the committee care about? Quality win or quality loss?
Monty (39:21.624)
Well, I just don't know how you argue with an undefeated army team with a top 10 win. Cause you'll have, you'll have Boise state in a three point loss to Oregon. They have one loss. it's like.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (39:26.583)
I don't see how you could.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (39:32.376)
But
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (39:34.492)
my question is, is that the point where it starts to get sticky for some SEC teams that are sitting there with two losses?
Monty (39:41.784)
They're not gonna, if they were to put both Boise State and Army in the playoff over one of those four teams I talked about.
Monty (39:52.887)
committee fired because it's the fact of the matter is, is and to leave biases out of this, take Tennessee out of the conversation, right? Just give me the three teams, Georgia, two laws, Alabama, two loss, Ole Miss, two loss. I'm taking any one of those three teams against army or Boise state on a neutral site field. All three.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:14.637)
Well, the thing
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:15.784)
about those ones is they all have a top 25 win. But if Texas loses?
Monty (40:24.17)
Yeah. I mean, I don't see the committee personally leaving Texas out because it's Texas and, they're, they're big, they're big. They're big. I test ranking when it comes to the committee is they're big on I test ranking Texas for whatever reason. so I think Texas is the last one that they, that they leave out, but I see what you're saying. Yeah. They have zero, they have zero, top 25 losses or excuse me, wins.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:25.465)
Texas is a two loss?
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:30.539)
No, I'm not, I'm not saying.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:40.803)
But I'm just saying.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:50.526)
Top 25 wins, zero. I'm just saying.
Monty (40:53.354)
Yeah, and now an
Monty (40:54.845)
output army and now put army at undefeated with a top ten win.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:58.059)
a top 20,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (40:58.959)
yeah, top 10 win.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (41:02.105)
Yeah, more than likely it would be Army and Notre Dame if Army beats Notre Dame, which let's go ahead and roll on to our week 13 predictions. We've kind of killed the top 25. So Monty, sitting at our current predictions, you are one game back. I'm 44 and 26. You're 43 and 27.
Monty (41:21.231)
Yeah, I was gonna say, what'd end up going? I went three and one.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (41:24.621)
Yeah, think I went two and two. I think I split them. Okay, we'll give it to you. We'll give it to you. Three and one. That's a week.
Monty (41:27.675)
I got a thumbs up and fireworks.
Monty (41:31.738)
All right, they're liking, see that,
Monty (41:33.481)
see I think this app is liking my, there you go. They're liking my playoff takes, man.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (41:36.747)
Yeah,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (41:39.621)
that's it. That's it. All right. So first game on the slate as always we always predict. you Tennessee first So we got Alabama coming to Norman Oakley
Monty (41:50.964)
Tennessee
Monty (41:51.666)
one by the way will be nice and quick, promise.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (41:54.358)
Yeah, we had Alabama come into OU, take on Oklahoma in Norman. Big game. I believe it is a night game in Norman. Yeah, it is. Currently, Alabama's favored by 14 points. And right now with everything Alabama's got riding on the line, riding on the season, they're not going to drop this game to a stumbling, stuttering Oklahoma team.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (42:22.538)
As much as it pains me, I don't see, I think Jalen Milrow, they're gonna, now granted, is there an opportunity for Oklahoma to win? It's the SEC, there's an opportunity for somebody to win, but it's gonna have to come on the back of great defensive plays, some turnovers from Jalen Milrow, and hope that the offense can take those turnovers and turn them into some points. Now, Alabama, they're probably gonna,
Monty (42:36.712)
to a same night.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (42:52.194)
pressure Oklahoma with some QB run game. See how Oklahoma responds to that. They've been pretty good on it throughout the season. Run defense is one of their strong suits on this defense. So we'll see how they match up there. Hopefully they can force Jalen Milrow to beat him with his arm. That will be Oklahoma's best opportunity hopefully to try to pull off an upset, but I gotta go with Alabama here.
Monty (43:21.39)
Yeah, yeah, actually so I will say I'm going with Bama too But I actually had a harder time with this one than people might think or you might think I actually did kind of want to take you With a big enormous you they I hope that the you the school is Getting the students to come out because obviously it's different when your team's not as good They're not gonna get the students out there as much if they still so I'm and I don't know you might know is this a sold-out game?
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (43:50.965)
Yeah, it's sold out. Still sold out again.
Monty (43:52.868)
Okay, so that's good to get the people there night game. can be loud. like I I am still taking Bama, just because it seems like Bama Bama is seemingly peaking right now. Like as a Tennessee fan, I honestly wouldn't want to play them again on, on a neutral field right now. It just seems like Bama is kind of getting back in that, that groove again. and obviously OU is kind of not right. They're not really peaking. They're not really doing it. They're just kind of stagnant. They're kind of just riding out the season, right?
Monty (44:22.384)
But you know, if they're trying to make a bullet and so that's what I'm saying. But, but that's the thing. there's a little bit of fighting there. Like, you want to make a bowl or do you want to not make a bowl? So, it'll be, the fight will be there. You'll see it. I think it'll be a raunchy first half. just think that, like I said, the difference is Bama's defense right now kind of finding themselves and OU's constantly struggling offenses. think it just, it could get ugly. I'm not saying it's going to,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (44:23.147)
We want ball eligibility. That's what we want.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (44:47.905)
But it
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (44:48.179)
could.
Monty (44:48.865)
But it could and it would happen in the second half would be my prediction. So overall, think I'm gonna go with Bama. Whether they cover or not, I don't know, cuz we've seen really good defensive play from OU this year. they could hold Jalen Milroy back and with that it could be closer than we think. But I am taking Bama.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (45:05.706)
Yeah, I mean, we've seen OU's defense, even if their offense isn't doing anything, we've seen them, they'll be able to keep opponents right around the most anybody scored, I believe is right around 33. I think South Carolina put up 33 and that's coming off the back of the offense. You didn't score 33 on the defense. The offense gave you, I think two pick sixes or a pick six and a fumble recovery scoop and score deal. So it's like,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (45:34.959)
The defense is going to play good enough to keep you in the football game. I am interested to see how they do facing Jaylen Millrow with just the athlete that he is. Normally, he steps on the field. He's probably the best athlete on both sides of the ball. So that's obviously definitely a big challenge to face. See how they do. Hopefully, they try to make him beat them throwing the ball and see if they're going to be able to make some plays in the secondary. So we'll go ahead and roll on, both going with Bama there. We got UTEP going on.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (46:04.513)
to take on Tennessee. I haven't spoken to you about who you predicted on this one. I feel like we're both going with Tennessee to get a rebound here, get a redemption game. If you lose this one, got some bad news for you.
Monty (46:16.525)
Yeah.
Monty (46:18.988)
Well,
Monty (46:19.718)
we deserve to lose out the season and not make the playoff. Yeah, I'm taking Tennessee as well.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (46:26.426)
Tennessee is just so everybody's aware they're a 41 and a half point favorite which That's a lot. We'll see if Tennessee is gonna be able to cover that That's kind of probably more the exciting watch to see how much they're gonna be able to actually score against a UTEP But like I said, I'll go ahead
Monty (46:41.005)
Yeah, yeah, and I was
Monty (46:44.314)
just gonna say, yeah, I had saw that spread and it made me think, I'm like, man, like, remind me, right, we talked about the OU main game, right? When y'all played main, obviously UTEP is a FPS team, but on the...
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (46:53.097)
Yep.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (47:01.695)
Well, it's kind of like what I said, it's same kind of game, know, it's a palate cleanser coming off a tough loss.
Monty (47:05.677)
Yeah. Right. But,
Monty (47:08.74)
what I would love to see is, that beginning of the year, Tennessee, right? When we played, you know, you, UT chat, played, not Kansas all state Kent state, you know, those games where you, yeah. I mean, hell yeah. That was a shocker too, but they, obviously didn't pan out either, but, you know, see, seeing that again, get kind of cleansing the palette. Like you said, that's when I saw the spread reminding me that hopefully we get to see that this week.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (47:20.306)
even NC State.
Monty (47:33.717)
maybe get the starters out relatively early and get some rest before we play a dangerous Vandy team, apparently. Never thought I'd say that, but.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (47:43.817)
Hey, Clark Kent or not Clark, Clark Lee, sorry. Hey. Yeah, he was. He was, especially after that Alabama game. I think anybody would have known him. Clark Kent.
Monty (47:46.925)
Clark, well hey, was Clark Kent for a little while.
Monty (47:56.471)
four
Monty (47:56.569)
star linebacker today, so he might be Clark.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (47:59.411)
Very well, very well. Could be looking at a name change there. So the next big game that we got for a prediction for y'all is we got BYU. Monty kind of mentioned it earlier. BYU traveling to Tempe, Arizona to take on Arizona State.
Monty (48:14.29)
I guess
Monty (48:14.553)
I said Phoenix, Tempe is probably the more accurate one.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (48:17.322)
Yeah,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (48:18.423)
yeah. Tough match up here. Arizona State's actually favored in this one by three and a half. It's kind of man, BYU, they kind of reminded you of Miami this year as you're watching them. They played a lot, a lot of one score games. Kansas has also played a lot of one score games. However, BYU had won all theirs and Kansas had lost majority of theirs. Obviously this last week it flipped and now they're going on taking on a
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (48:47.123)
Kind of a red hot Arizona State team that's kind of came out of nowhere. I think it's kind of a dangerous matchup for BYU. That's why I had to go with Arizona State in this one. Try to see if they could pull off the, granted I know it's not technically an upset because they are technically favored to win at home, but still an upset in terms to overall ranking position. So I gotta go with Arizona State here.
Monty (49:16.446)
Yeah.
Monty (49:20.273)
they don't want to make the same mistake twice. They don't want to lose two in a row and that would severely hurt the chances might even completely destroy them. QB play Jake Retzloff, the quarterback from BYU is playing this one. I think it's paramount to this game and their defense and shutting down Skadeboe and I guess apparently now that ASU pass offense. I'm saying they do.
Monty (49:47.228)
taking BYU this where we're this is our one game. think that I don't know what you got for the other two. can I can predict what you have, but I'm going with BYU this one. I think all three phases of the game for BYU will will show this game. Again, I don't have a score prediction for this one. I don't know if it's going to be close or not. It probably if I were a Batman, it's probably going to be a close game. I think but but I think BYU walks into Tempe. No, not Phoenix, Tempe, Arizona.
Monty (50:15.67)
and gets the W. I don't see them drop in two in a row.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (50:19.419)
Yeah, just meant call me me crazy. I think that crowd in Tempe I think they're gonna be they're gonna be pretty wound up for this one Haven't probably had a matchup matchup like they're like that Yeah
Monty (50:31.912)
And I know how rowdy Tempe can get, that ASU
Monty (50:37.207)
student body can get.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (50:40.081)
Yeah, I think they're going to be pretty wound up. However, like you said, in close games, BYU, they figure out a way to pull it off. Even if it is the most unlikely scenario on how they've done it, they've been able to do it this year. you know, you got it. There is something to be said about knowing how to win these close football games, which I mean, Arizona State's not unaccustomed to themselves. They've been in a couple of close ones. However, it seems like BYU's done it week in and week out.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (51:08.431)
outside of the Kansas State game and the Arizona State or Arizona game, So yeah, there's definitely a, you know, probably gonna be a close game. We're gonna differ on it. I gotta go with Arizona State. I think they just got a little bit too much of a hot hand and that home crowd I think is gonna be a pretty hostile environment for BYU to come in and play.
Monty (51:32.08)
Only time will tell, but yeah, that's our first difference of the preview.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (51:37.364)
I don't
Monty (51:37.684)
So that's it.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (51:38.253)
know how much the Mormons are ready. I don't know how well they're going to travel down to Tempe, but definitely two different crowds. I could lay out a lot of jokes, but I'm going to leave them alone. It's football show. All right, so we got next game on the slate. You'd already talked about it. We'd already mentioned it quite a bit through this episode, but we got
Monty (51:44.134)
I was gonna say the polar opposites, some would say. Or at least the older crowds.
Monty (51:56.456)
This is football show.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (52:06.925)
undefeated army traveling to They're actually meeting in Bronx, New York. I believe for this one. They're playing a Yankee Stadium. So it's a neutral site To take on Notre Dame the fighting Irish at nine and one number six in the AP poll
Monty (52:13.722)
Yep. The... Yeah. The...
Monty (52:22.31)
Part of the
Monty (52:23.217)
shamrock series.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (52:26.267)
Yeah, Monty, I'm let you go ahead deep dive this one first. Who you got in this one?
Monty (52:32.474)
So this one, the right thing to do.
Monty (52:39.146)
Smart thing that I should say, the smart thing to do is to go with the favorite, the team that's favored by two touchdowns, the more talented team. When we're talking athlete wise, the team that plays the competition arguably plays the better competition. know, Army's strength of schedule, I believe is that 133rd in the country. Smart thing to do is to take the golden domers.
Monty (53:07.918)
That's the smart thing to do. 14 point favorite. Man, I'm taking America's team. I'm going with Army. I got to go with them. I got to go with Army, dude. I got to go with Army. Who am I? Do I think I'm going be right? Probably not. But am I going to go with the boys? Am I going to go with America's team? Absolutely, I'm going to go with them. Man, I want to see that freaking veer shove down the Irish's throats. I want to see that veer, that triple option, and I want them to run it down.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (53:15.505)
Okay.
Monty (53:38.06)
the Irish is to vote and I hope I see it. Do I think it's gonna happen? Man, it's tough, but the world of America needs it.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (53:46.926)
Yeah, only thing about this game is, man, I gotta go against you here. I'm going with Notre Dame. My rooting interest is in Army in this game. I hope I am wrong. However, the kind of games that Army wins is they take their opponent and they drag them into the mud. However, when you look at this Notre Dame team, that's exactly what they're built to do. They're built on just
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (54:14.61)
They're like a more talented Army team. They were built to run the football. Riley Leonard is going to run the football just like Army's quarterback will.
Monty (54:20.974)
So you
Monty (54:21.634)
change your...
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (54:24.552)
Yeah, I changed it. It was.
Monty (54:27.232)
You're playing,
Monty (54:27.702)
you're playing, you're trying to beat me in our overall record. That's what you're doing. You should have picked Army. I picked Army because I was like, know what? I think that they can win this game. I was like, do I think that they're going to? Maybe not, but do I think they can? And I was like, well, this doesn't hurt our record if I pick what he's picking, an Army. So I went with Army, dude. And you just let me down. But you know what? Even better, now I know Army's going to win.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (54:31.608)
Hahaha!
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (54:57.102)
Okay, well...
Monty (54:57.781)
Take,
Monty (54:57.933)
take, go ahead, take your flashy, take your flashy BS cutesy team. I'm going with, I'm going with the dogs, man. I'm going with the beat down, rumbling and stumbling army, Black Knights.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (55:12.443)
Well, the only advantage that Notre Dame has is they have seen the beer already this year. They've already prepared for it once.
Monty (55:19.307)
But that's
Monty (55:19.765)
Navy, that's Navy, we're talking Army.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (55:22.307)
I understand this is the next level, Veer. However, Notre Dame, they're comfortable playing the style of game that Army wants to play. They're more talented on defense, more talented on offense, and they can run the ball and play defense. It's kind of what Notre Dame after that NIU game.
Monty (55:40.309)
But are they
Monty (55:40.973)
more technically sound?
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (55:44.665)
I guess that's what we're gonna find out. Let's go ahead and roll on to the next game. got not as much of America, kind of America's other team outside of Army is Indiana 10 and 0. They're traveling to the shoot, take on Ohio State in Columbus. Ohio State nine and one with the only loss to the number one team in the country, Oregon by one point.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (56:11.217)
Monty, Ohio State's favorite by 12 and a half in this one against the undefeated team. What do you think here?
Monty (56:19.839)
So I will like to say one thing about that 12 point, 12 and a half point spread. I saw something earlier today. It was like, man, if you have the number two team hosting the number five team in the country and they're favored by 12, 12 and a half points, it's probably not the number five team coming to you, right? But that's, mean, that's Vegas doesn't think Indiana is all that. Obviously it's Indiana's biggest game of the year, right?
Monty (56:47.497)
People have saying they haven't played anybody. They're undefeated, but they haven't played anybody.
Monty (56:54.025)
But I mean, I'm kind of on board with Vegas. don't, know, as much as, as much as it'd be cool to see Indiana going defeated and beat a big time. I'll well, I'll be rooting for Indiana probably. will it help Tennessee if Indiana loses probably, but will I be rooting for Indiana? Yeah, but I'm going with Ohio state, man. I, know, maybe you can make an argument if this game was in Bloomington, Indiana, but it's not, it's right. It's, it's in the shoe and it's one of the toughest places to play in the country. and this
Monty (57:22.576)
Apparently other than the Penn State game and I'd argue it is more so. This is Ohio State's biggest game of the season, right? I mean they got a home game against the only other undefeated team in the conference and they already lost to the other one. man, gotta beat like what if you know if they lose, they're not in the they're not. They're not in the Big 10 championship. So this is this is as big if not bigger game for Ohio State than it is for Indiana.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (57:30.769)
Home game
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (57:44.537)
not in the coverage.
Monty (57:53.457)
So going with the Buckeyes, yes sir.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (57:53.561)
Yeah, so you're going with the buckas.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (57:58.459)
Yeah, I kind of agree with you. I'm going with the Buckeyes as well. I think, has Indiana played really good football this year? Yes. However, you can also say, they been, has their 10-0 record been assisted by their schedule? Yes. Now granted, they've played some comparatively good teams.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (58:27.128)
Michigan is not the Michigan that won the national championship last year. But, know, Indiana just beat them last week. However, they haven't faced anybody that's good, as good as Ohio State is this year, or as talented as Ohio State is this year with their $20 million roster. So, yeah, I think Kirk Siganetti, is a...
Monty (58:30.644)
No they're not.
Monty (58:48.477)
Hmm.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (58:54.948)
He's definitely, this definitely going to be a springboard year for him in Ohio. He just got a huge contract, huge contract, eight more years with Indiana.
Monty (58:58.243)
yeah.
Monty (59:02.013)
Yeah,
Monty (59:02.422)
I mean, this is year one of him living his first year and he's 11. What? 11 to no or 10 to no? I don't want to get it wrong. think it's 10 to no. Okay. So they have two more games then?
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (59:05.009)
Yeah, year one.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (59:10.606)
It's 10 and 0.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (59:14.18)
Yeah, two more games. I believe they gotta play Ohio State and then they gotta travel to Purdue. Or Purdue's got, they get Purdue at home, I think.
Monty (59:20.302)
Monty (59:21.976)
One win, one win Purdue. Hey man, they're dangerous.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (59:25.701)
dangerous So yeah, I got to go with Ohio State in this one. Of course. It's in it. Of course. It's an 11 a.m. Kickoff Shout out shout out big noon shout out big noon But hey
Monty (59:34.508)
Yeah, it is.
Monty (59:38.73)
It blows my mind man. It blows my mind. Hey,
Monty (59:43.955)
Army Notre Dame though, that's a night game. They know what they're doing over there.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (59:46.645)
Night game.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (59:48.036)
Yeah. Yeah, I gotta go with Ohio State with this one. I think Indiana is going to suffer their first loss. I think they're going to put up a good fight. Eventually though, I think probably more towards the second half, third quarter. Ohio State's probably going to start pulling away with this one. We'll see if they're
Monty (01:00:03.288)
Yeah, and I'll
Monty (01:00:04.041)
be.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:00:06.317)
I was just saying we'll see if they're going to be able to cover that 12 and a half. Maybe, maybe not. I could see Ohio State get to about a 10 point lead and then just relying on that defense there.
Monty (01:00:17.37)
Yeah. And that's the thing I wanted to note about that game too. Indiana point at Ohio State, man, if Indiana, even if Indiana loses, right. But they play Ohio state close. Obviously predicted to beat Purdue right then next week they're in, but they're in, even if they're not in the big 10 championship, I'd argue that they're in if they lose a close loss, because as we've seen the committee, what they value is good losses, right? So if they, if they play this one close, if they don't let
Monty (01:00:47.194)
Ohio State cover that spread. They're in my opinion and I think that most people would argue that because they would end the season at 11 and 1. They'd sit out the Big Ten Championship, be arrested.
Monty (01:01:01.657)
I mean that yeah, they would they would sit out the the conference championship, but no, yeah, would say Indiana is definitely in if they if they lose this one close definitely obviously if they win but
Monty (01:01:16.492)
We shall see.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:01:17.529)
Yeah, let's go ahead and roll on. We'll close out the show just like we always do. got our dubs and duds of the week. Monty, who are we kicking in the nuts this week, man? Who you got?
Monty (01:01:28.108)
This is one of my better ones, think, man. this happened, or at least the news hit today. Man, Kennesaw State fired their head coach. Not only did they fire their head coach, so this is their first, so for people that don't, that may not know, this is Kennesaw State's first year at the FBS level after being a very good FCS team. First year at the FBS level, they didn't do well. I believe they have one or two wins this season.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:01:54.858)
I think I said it earlier in the show, they're one in nine.
Monty (01:01:57.642)
Okay, and they fired their head coach, but not only did they fire their head coach, they put the job opening on Indeed.
Monty (01:02:07.0)
the job finding website, the job for the Kennesaw state head coaching position is on indeed. So not only did they fire a coach they shouldn't have, in my opinion, first year at the FBS, Sam Houston's first year was last year. They had a very similar year to Kennesaw state. You said earlier that they're now eight and two in year two, right? So Kennesaw state's first year at the FBS level, just getting, you know, getting used to that competition, fired their head coach. After he beats,
Monty (01:02:36.183)
an undefeated Liberty team. Not right after, but a couple of weeks after. don't know. I think it's kind of sus. And then putting the job on indeed. That's a loss for, that's a loss for Kenisau State. That's the school's fault. My head coach's fault.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:02:40.492)
Yeah. Yeah.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:02:55.35)
Yeah, that's a that's definitely kind of a tough, tough deal there. He posted on Indeed. I didn't know that happened. But.
Monty (01:03:02.582)
Yeah, anyone
Monty (01:03:03.441)
can apply. They might have taken it down now because it kind of went viral, but yeah, they put it on indeed.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:03:08.717)
Do you think JMU set unrealistic expectations last year whenever they moved up to the FPS level?
Monty (01:03:15.422)
No, not at all. think North Dakota State could do it. South Dakota State could do it.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:03:19.297)
Well, what I'm just saying is
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:03:21.53)
like, what I'm saying is like, know, they're, Kitasol States like, Hey, why are we not performing like JMU did last year, you know, with their first year they came in rolling.
Monty (01:03:29.385)
me and
Monty (01:03:32.554)
I mean, don't think Jamie's first year wasn't last year, was it?
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:03:36.461)
I thought that was the whole deal, was because they
Monty (01:03:38.486)
Well, it
Monty (01:03:38.738)
either, it was either last year or the year prior, but, I mean, yeah, Jamie, you came in hot, also didn't do what Sam Houston did. or even Kenesaw state, but that's if they were to say that, right. The argument for that head coach would be, well, yeah, look at Sam Houston, you know, so.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:03:58.059)
Yeah, I don't know. think you gotta have some time to be able to get the money that comes from making that jump and be able to implement that new money and hopefully be able to use that to improve your program. Look at what it's doing for Sam Houston in just their second year. Kind of funny that they fired him immediately following the loss for Sam Houston. That's kind of...
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:04:27.287)
Kind of interesting there. You want to go ahead and move on to my dead of the week? All right, so I thought about going with LSU here after their loss to Florida. We haven't mentioned it, but LSU kind of starting to see their season unravel on them a little bit. We'll see if Brian Kelly can right the ship there. But I had to go with BYU. We already mentioned it. Losing to Kansas, losing their first game of the season and kind of turning to Big 12.
Monty (01:04:31.208)
Yeah,
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:04:55.052)
I mean the big 12, we had already said it was gonna be kind of a monster to be able to come out of there unscathed. However, yeah, at the top it just seems to be just piling up up there. So yeah, I had to go with BYU, tough first loss, like you mentioned earlier, everything's still in front of them. But yeah, definitely a tough loss, especially taking that loss to a Kansas team at home that Kansas obviously.
Monty (01:05:02.376)
just made it more difficult at the top.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:05:25.204)
was three and six at the time. So a three win Kansas team losing BYU 90-0, losing to them at home. Had to go with BYU there for my dead of the week.
Monty (01:05:35.762)
Yeah. controlled their own destiny. they still kind of do right now, but they, I mean, they could have solidified themselves as, at least the playoff contender for sure going undefeated, but, definitely, definitely a big 12th. one thing about that Kansas team, man, now it seems like, you know, too little too late, but they've kind of found themselves maybe that, you know, they got, they got to win against Iowa state. They got to win against BYU on the road. Like, you know, it,
Monty (01:06:04.337)
Kansas was supposed to be what their record shows this year. Right. And I think they've kind of, like I said, found themselves now, still fighting for a bowl eligibility. they're, they're climbing rather than, you know, crew coasting into it, four and four and six now with two, two top 10 wins, at least at the time, Iowa state was. So, I mean, never know with Kansas and they got, they, got, Colorado this week.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:06:35.136)
Yeah, and there's definitely two ways to get to 6 and 6 and the vibes at 6 and 6 do tend to feel different. If you started 6 and 0 and you finished 6 and 6, hey, that program's in some murky water. But if you started real low and you just, yeah, and you climb your way to 6 and 6, things are looking up, we're coming, we're about to be on a rebound here.
Monty (01:06:36.081)
Giant Killer Kansas.
Monty (01:06:52.987)
Two and six. They were two and six. They were two and six.
Monty (01:07:03.857)
If they get to 6-6, not only are they getting to 6-6 from 2-6, they would have two top 10 wins and three top 25 wins.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:07:14.176)
And they did it playing probably the best the Big 12 has to offer. big game, big game for Kansas this week. Obviously a huge game for Colorado with everything that's riding on it for the season for them. All right, Monte, who did you have for your double this week? What'd you end up deciding with?
Monty (01:07:18.244)
Literally.
Monty (01:07:25.347)
Giant Killer Kansas. out.
Monty (01:07:32.826)
So we talked about
Monty (01:07:33.79)
him a little bit earlier today. Man, the week that he had, you couldn't pass it up, right? Lenore Sellers, they say, threw for 353 yards, five touchdowns and an interception, but was clutch at the end of the game. Really won that game for South Carolina, big game against Mizzou, making South Carolina look really good right now.
Monty (01:08:01.113)
Some are saying, I'm not necessarily saying it, but some are saying a little bit of an argument for a playoff spot. But they're at seven and three, but man with him at the helm, you never know what's possible. So Lenore Sells is definitely my double week. Like I five touchdowns and a clutch win, gotta give it to him.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:08:18.386)
Yeah, gotta feel for Gamecocks fans if that pick six that they had called back ends up being what derails the seat or ruins the playoff chances for them. Because I don't think there would really be any question with a seven, if South Carolina was eight and two right now. They're right up there with all the other. Yeah, exactly. So for me, I had to go with my dub of the week this week.
Monty (01:08:36.075)
I just, yeah, another one of those probably 10 and two teams.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:08:46.506)
Kind of a big 12 edition for me. You know, had obviously BYU Kansas or BYU losing to Kansas is my dud. It's my dub. I had to go with the team that BYU is facing this week. Arizona State winning over Kansas State kind of almost announcing themselves to the country saying, hey, don't forget about us.
Monty (01:09:04.407)
I would
Monty (01:09:04.674)
say, I would say literally, I mean, no one really knew what they, what the record was until, you know, they played B Y or excuse me, K state and then beat K state.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:09:13.768)
Yeah, I mean obviously we already kind of deep dive the game a little bit but kind of emphasizes just how big of a win that was for them and then also how big of a game they have this week against BYU. Arizona State maybe be able to play themselves into a playoff playoff contention which I don't think anybody had on their bingo card this year. I know I didn't.
Monty (01:09:35.436)
Now, if you told me in week one that Colorado and ASU might be playing for a big 12 title, I'd be like, dude, you don't know anything about college football. And here we are. So it's very, very poetic for the season.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:09:41.673)
Dude.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:09:50.014)
Yeah, one thing about the Big 12, it is definitely, it is definitely provided for some exciting matchups this year.
Monty (01:09:58.7)
Credit to us. We said it, man.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:10:01.783)
Yeah, was high on the Big 12. They're probably, I mean, obviously they're just not with the log jam that the SEC also has going. Big 12's not gonna be able to get probably more than their champion in, whoever ends up winning the Big 12 title. However, been exciting conference to watch this year, that's for sure. Monty, let's go ahead and close out the show, man. What do you got any closing thoughts, anything you wanna say?
Monty (01:10:15.048)
one.
Monty (01:10:28.852)
Yes, the only thing I was going to say was that I was looking at that because of what the big 12 is this year. was looking at the standings and one of the teams that we projected to be towards the top besides Utah, of course, Oklahoma State, and seven in the big 12.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:10:46.282)
Yeah, my conference championship prediction, it was the same as a lot of people for the Big 12, was Utah and Oklahoma State. And Utah is 1-6 in the Big 12 and Oklahoma State is 0-7. So L for me on that one.
Monty (01:10:47.86)
When when listen to the big 12
Monty (01:11:02.027)
Hey, hey, I
Monty (01:11:03.758)
had Iowa State winning the big 12. It looked good for a while there and it's looking, it's looking very, very, very dim in the near future. Noah, go ahead.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:11:12.361)
I was
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:11:14.462)
just saying man, looking at, so I have the standings pulled up right now and just the log jam that is the Big 12. I mean you have one, two, three, one, two, three, four, you have five three loss teams in the Big 12 as far as their Big 12 record with Kansas State, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech and West Virginia. And then, know, those are closely followed by three, four loss teams.
Monty (01:11:18.441)
Yeah.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:11:40.52)
And obviously you got BYU, Colorado, Arizona State, and Iowa State up at the top of the rankings. Just crazy how competitive that conference is.
Monty (01:11:49.546)
That's what we said it going to be though, man. mean, it's the big 12. It's those teams that they kind of, they linger around like like number 15 in the country to like number 45 in the country and just beat up on each other.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:12:01.64)
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:12:03.954)
Yeah. It's any given week in the Big 12 Conference. For that man, that's going to wrap up the episode for us. Thank y'all for tuning in. mean, actually had a record number of views on the past week's episode. So we're hopefully get this one out and hopefully get a couple more views on it for us. Like I said, be sure to keep telling your friends about it. That's the best way to spread word about the show, word of mouth.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:12:30.788)
As Monty said, if you hate it, tell them. Maybe they'll hate it too. We'll take any kind kind of viewership or any kind of feedback that we can get on the show.
Monty (01:12:42.409)
Yeah,
Monty (01:12:42.988)
tell your friends how incredibly bad it is because of how biased they are. Tell them to listen. They gotta listen to it. No, I'm just kidding.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:12:48.497)
Yeah.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:12:51.27)
Either way, if y'all have any feedback, like I said, let us know if there's anything y'all want, anything y'all want to put into the show. Let us know. We'll be sure to drop it in a mailbag. Man, thank y'all for tuning in. Be sure to subscribe to the show on X, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. It really helps grow the show. And man, thank y'all for listening. Until next week, we'll catch y'all.
The Monty and Murdy : CFB Show (01:13:18.044)
Peace.
